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∂01-Mar-78 2234 KRD pubbing format
Have gotten to the stage of worrying about how to format text, chapter headings,
etc. for the book, and figured your pub defns would be the easiest source of
of how to do it right. Could you send me (sometime reasonably soon) the file
of pub decls that sets things up for the right page size, etc. Thanks.
Randy
∂02-Mar-78 2352 KRD pub hacking
Thanks for the files, have been puzzling thru. A sample of the
final product (xgp output) would be immensely helpful in understanding
your conventions. Can you make a small unprotected file that has about
10 xgp pages of final product that I can look at? Easiest way is
probably just to copy ten pp of any current book xgp file (pls include
a chapter begging page so I can see what that looks like; also somthing
with footnotes.)
thanks
Randy
∂03-Mar-78 0201 KRD
John:
Herewith a few questions for your kind consideration. If you
want to answer via mail that's fine; else I'd be happy to call you
sometime if it would be easier to do verbally.
How does one do sub and superscripts? I noticed your macros use SUB and
SUP, but I also thot I noticed that the VIP fonts include sub and super
chars in them (ie, the VIP baskerville seems to have small numbers in
sub and sup positions as characters in that typeface).
What's the TENPOINT vs non-TENPOINT distinction? Why the different
typefaces for each? What's each used for?
How do you get that "drop folio" effect (marvelous phrase), that is,
dropping the pg number to the bottom on chapter opening pages?
Does the VIP have any trouble with tabbed or nonstandard margined
things? That is, can I reset margins and use tabs (/) freely in
justified text, or are there some things I should be warned of?
What page frame (height, width) should I use? I worked thru your
macros and the MARGINS call that's in BOOK.PUB gives a column 84 chars
wide, which, at least in baskerville, is roughly 6 inches wide and is
bigger than what the book will use.
Why do you have your own BASI30? Why not use the standard font?
What font should I use in footnotes, since if I understand properly
they get set in a small baskerville that we don't have.
Is METSB used for running heads because it's the right size and spacing
for the font that eventually gets used (which I presume is also a small
baserville)?
Do you use a dash or a double hyphen? If the former, what character gets
you the dash in the VIP typesets?
Thanks in advance; for all these and the more that I suspect are yet to
come. Perhaps we should get together once after I've had a chance to
look at a few pages of your finished product and thrash out all these
issues at once.
thanks
Randy
∂14-Mar-78 2227 KRD
Hi. All seems to be going reasonably well, at least at the PUB level.
Got a few questions for you, and (surprise) even some potentially useful
info. First the questions:
On the xgp, the use of the SUB and SUP fonts screws up the line spacing
slightly (forcing the lines a little further apart). Does this also happen
on the VIP, or is this an artifact of the xgp? If not, are there any
ways to avoid it?
The spacing of footnote text confuses me a bit. Currently I've got them
done in BAXl35 (like the rest of the text), but I think you said once
that they are actually set in a smaller Baskerville. Question: does this
mess up the justification any, or is the small Bask close enough in size
that filling a line with BASL35 puts the right number of characters in?
Also, does the interline spacing stay the same (so that the lines are
actually slightly further apart)?
If they are going to strip in the figures, how do you plan to produce a
version that leaves just the right amount of blank space?
Ok, now that was easy, right....?
Now for the payoff:
First:
You may already know but, I think that, despite the fancy macro (the MARGINS
macro), you're actually setting the page size with the PAGE FRAME command
that comes just after it in FORMAT. The problem is that the MARGINS macro
has a BEGIN/END pair, which inhibits the scope of the internal PAGE FRAME command
to the inside of the macro. You have to change BEGIN/END to START/END if you
want the macro to do the actual page frame setting for you (as I found out
thru practice).
Second: you might want to use the following text response, which changes
ordinary double quotes into the appropriate open/close quote pairs. At
least on the xgp it makes for much nicer looking copy.
.QUOTE ← 0;
.AT """"
. ⊂
. IF (1 ≤ THISFONT ≤ 3) OR (THISFONT = FNFONT)
. THEN
. START "CHANGE"
. IF EVEN QUOTE THEN "α`α`" ELSE "α'α'";
. QUOTE ← QUOTE + 1;
. END "CHANGE"
. ELSE "α""";
. ⊃;
∂16-Mar-78 2135 KRD
Ok, footnote stuff sounds good. Still wondering about whether VIP lines
are forced apart by sub/superscripts the way xgp lines are. Also, how
do you plan to leave space for figures to be stripped in?